Or did you convinced yourself that the big guy, Ironclad was the Thing, but he's made of ice!
And Vector was the leader of the team, Kinda like Reed Richards; brilliant guy before turning into a Super Person
Reed Richards was a SUPERHERO, and Vector was a SUPERVILLAIN. the argument is: U-FOES ARE EXACTLY LIKE THE FANTASTIC FOUR, so we cannot defer away from the supposition.
Vector has a sucky superpower, he can deflect things... Kinda like Reed Richards, but they use it to their advantage and make it the most useful of the team. Reed Richards can wrap himself around the Hulk to keep him bound long enough to calm him down and help the Super Heroes. Vector has almost defeated the Hulk singlehandedly, (<----is that word a Stan Leeism? it's not in the spell check...) but he forgot one thing: The madder the Hulk gets; the STRONGER HE GETS! But Vector is a SUPER VILLAIN, He traps the Hulk long enough to unveil his master plan while the Hulk is getting stronger by the millisecond.
Vapor is Vector's wife, she can turn into vapors, (That's original... must have took hours of meditation to come up with that!) She's almost invisible, but not quite. To compensate, she can turn into deadly poisons and kill you... nice trade off Stan! Her super powers are deadly! ...but Dude, you can still see her and fan her away, or battle her on a windy day. However if I'm in an air tight room with no escape THAN VAPOR WINS! but in all other situations, I can use a pizza box to push her away...
And then there's Johnny: no wait... Jimmy! Well he's like the Human Torch, except he's made of X-RAYS! yeah so it makes as much sense that he can fly just because the Human Torch is a guy made of Fire and he can fly! I hope I never see campfire attacks
Scoudouc News Eye Witness.
"We just lit a campfire and these fireballs attacked my girlfriend! I wish fire didn't just randomly fly!"
Hello! fire doesn't randomly fly! Even if there is a human inside who can withstand extreme heat; what manner of propulsion is making him fly? Same as X-Ray. Do I have to look out for random X-rays when I go to the airport? ...Oh yeah I might. but they were not FLYING AT ME!
SNEWitness: I usually have to walk to it,escorted by a busty blond in a security suit, and the 6'5 tubby guy. So you decide it's not a good idea to say: I hope I require a strip search! and that she would take you up on it. With his presence, you don't say it; because he might take you up on it!
So I stuck through the U-Foes. Actually no... I went backwards. I sought out back issues. Why did he go into outer space? He killed Glen Talbot? No way! But he really sacrificed himself to save Betty. Banner/Hulk got to see Talbot die and probably blames himself for the destruction he caused,.but Hulk was just trying to save Betty too. Don't blame yourself Hulk.
In the old series Hulk spoke sporadically "Hulk SMASH" "The madder the Hulk gets: the STRONGER he gets", and "Puny humans"
SNEWitness: "Puny Human was funny to me because Banner/Hulk is human. He's a monster of a human, and green; but still human. But the Hulk really says:, I'm the one who saves your puny ass from disasters, alien invasions, monsters from the depth of the sea, EVERYTHING YOU'RE SLIGHTLY PARANOID OF !
The Hulk loves you. the madder he gets, the more he's trying to save you! In the 2008 movie, would I.as the Hulk, stand in front of a burning Helicopter crash, to save Liv Tyler playing Betty Ross? I'll buy that....Even if the CGI wasn't great (which By the way, it was awesome!) I still think the Hulk out-acted William Hurt as General Ross. with the stare back. Without words, he said: "I love your daughter sir, I know you don't like me now, but I would never hurt your daughter, I would crack the world into two pieces with my fists. I would kill any abomination you throw at me" (guess what Hulk? he does!!!! Introduced very well by Tim Roth.)
I love the Hulk, and the Hulk loves me back. I love him so much I would like Betty Ross to come back. I would sent him to Hades. He has seen the future. In 2099 the Hulk will reign supreme! A tyrant! The evil forces are recruiting him now. Lady Death herself is at first uninterested. but later likes the Hulk. He can be the leader of destruction, he can give her bigger megadeath tributes than Thanos and he doesn't need an Infinity Gauntlet! By then Thanos will be so jealous! The battleground will be huge in the underworld! A showdown of Ungodly proportions! Hulk wins... but he's been burned twice. Jarella died and Caeira died... He's not interested in another doomed relationship. (I'm such a puny human!) Thanos, relieved the Hulk is not pursuing his longtime woo, offers him a gift
Betty Ross....
SNEWitness. Upon researching the cause of her death the last blurb on the page is:
However after a brief period were Bruce was being tortured by Nightmare, Betty was apparently resurrected (apparently? you mocking me for not keeping current, you puny, Marvel web content guy Supergeek? don't make me angry, you won't like me when I'm angry. lol).So the Marvel Universe is set and I didn't need to catch Stan Lee's attention. He answered my wishes before they were even in my head.
But if you kill Betty again, she would not be in Limbo or Hell, she would be in magical garden, with Caeira and Jarella. Beta Ray Bill is holding on to them near Asgard. Hulk will have to shake the walls of Valhalla again... Then Lady Death intervenes and MY HULK STORY IS plausible!
I lost the game against Stan Lee, He dared me to be a fan and I've retained stories of the Hulk more than Stan Lee does! I reminded myself it was stupid to accept a man can fly while on fire... but because Stan Lee told the story, it didn't matter. When Jesus told the story of the Good Samaritan, we accept she believed in another faith or religion. Why for the Love of God can't we accept the real message? there are good people who believe in other religions and you should not persecute them for it.
Hulk's message was about Love, not Rage. I got that. So if my Jesus is 8 feet tall and has green skin, so be it.
nuff said